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September 29, 2004

VIOLENT UTOPIANS AND RADICAL ISLAMISTS

        Horsefeathers has argued elsewhere that left utopians form unconscious alliances with Islamo-fascist utopians who wish to destroy America. The Bush hatred and inculpation of America on the left can sound as deranged as anything uttered by Middle Eastern sheiks damning Israel, America and Bush the infidel. It is born of the same yearning for utopia and the need for scapegoats--the Jews, Bush, America--to explain why it never arrives. Robert Spencer reminds us in a review of David Horowitz's Unholy Alliance, the convergence of aims is not just unconscious. "...This anti-anti-terrorism is motivated by an anti-Americanism that was born, as Horowitz details, in Communism and the Vietnam-era antiwar movement. Although the revolutionary fact (the Soviet bloc) has been consigned to the dustbin of history, the revolutionary illusion persists, and continues to identify America as the chief obstacle to its utopia. Horowitz quotes another Columbia professor, Nicholas De Genova: "Peace is not patriotic [but] subversive. . . . Peace anticipates a very different world than the one in which we live -- a world where the U.S. would have no place." De Genova, of course, won nationwide notoriety when he declared just before the beginning of the Iraq war: "The only true heroes are those who find ways that help defeat the U.S. military. . . . I personally would like to see a million Mogadishus..."

Horowitz explains that "as long as America continues to maintain the will and ability to protect what radicals regard as the global order of 'social injustice,' all reforms and social advances within the existing structure of American democracy will be illusory." In other words, it won't be enough for the left to elect John Kerry: America itself must be brought down.
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Horsefeathers has argued elsewhere that left utopians form unconscious alliances with Islamo-fascist utopians who wish to destroy America.

And far wiser heads have argued the opposite, based on an actual understanding of the situation America faces.

See here for example:

"Here, then, is the heart of the matter. If you remember nothing else, remember Anonymous’s central argument – bin Laden hates us not for what we are, but for what we do. Make no mistake about it. The ability of bin Laden to convince others to kill us is rooted in the worldwide perception among Muslims that our foreign policy is, quite literally, a massive attack on Islam that necessitates a defensive jihad. Bin Laden isn’t trying to destroy us, he’s trying to change the Middle East and much of the world’s foreign policy. We must understand that. There is no war on terror. There is only a war for the Middle East. Terrorism is a tactic. It is politics by other means – and religious-inspired politics at that. It is a tool being used to reshape the Middle East and our foreign policy. Period. It has nothing to do what we believe or value. It has everything to do with our – and the world’s – foreign policy toward Muslim nations and populations."

Posted by: Phoenician in a time of Romans at September 30, 2004 01:58 AM

Phoenician, you must have masochistic tendencies posting on a site like this. Why do you bother arguing with people who in general don't have the intelligence or education to make a decent argument. The only thing they posses is a holy conviction that they are right and that everyone else is wrong, no middleground. Just leave them alone in their fantasy world.

Posted by: I ate Lenny at September 30, 2004 08:42 AM

These comments are especially apt on this, the 66th ann'y of Chamberlain's announcement that appeasement of Hitler had brought "Peace in our time". Just as our current day appeasers blame America for creating bin Laden and the Islamo-Nazis and their legions of Jihadists, Chamberlain represented those English utopians who blamed themselves for the rise of Hitler. He was more honest though, in proudly announcing the virtues of appeasement.

Posted by: Stephen at September 30, 2004 09:57 AM

Stephen,

What happened to Martin Kozloff's "Letter to the Enemy" ??

Posted by: ad at September 30, 2004 10:13 AM

I think it's still in the archives. And if you can't find it there, I think some people in Atrios' comments said they archived it, so if Kozloff fears retribution, it does him no good.

However, I think we should all email his department head and say that while we think it was inapprorpriate for him to use his UNCW.edu email address, we support his right of free speech.

I also think that sunshine is good; the original should be posted and freely available on the web as an example of hate speech.

Posted by: Sam at September 30, 2004 11:53 AM

Oh I forgot to reply to "I ate Lenny":

Sunshine is good. Everyone should come in here freely and provide a better sense of what society's broader norms are. It's because of relative isolation that extremes develop more easily.

"Bring 'em on," as they say.

Posted by: Sam at September 30, 2004 11:55 AM

I've noticed the same thing. The leftist/islamist alliance shows through particular in protest marches. The anti-semites on the left march arm in arm with the mass murdering sympathizers of radical islam.

Posted by: Phlegmatist at September 30, 2004 07:00 PM

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